In the novels, there is a very famous and muchloved chapter near the end, taking place after sauron has been defeated at mt. So great was the power of these rings that saurons mind was unable to penetrate the realms in which. Great for comparing and contrasting and thinking critically about how the movie was made. Alone of every power in middleearth, saruman innovates, notably gunpowder. All right, so i wanted to see how many of you like harry potter, how many the lord of the rings, and also which characters you prefer. Lord of the rings vs harry potter published on january 25, 2016 march 10, 2018 by ben williams today i will be offering my viewpoint on one of the biggest fan wars. One of the greatest fantasy novel series of all time changed movies forever when it was adapted into a film trilogy, but how much did the stories themselves change. Gandalf and saruman were only pushing themselves to the walls, dumbledore can do well more than that.
Who would win, bellatrix lestrange harry potter vs. In the film, saruman causes the blizzard at caradhras using a spell. Adapting lotr vs adapting harry potter comedy film nerds. Tolkien creates a universe with set rules and goes on to write a story that takes place in that universe. Gandalf isnt simply a wizard, but a minor god as well. Part 2 2011 characters that have been both good and evil, at various stages throughout their lives sometimes falsely. The size of the war of the ring, saving the shire from saruman, or the. While there are some changes in sequence, the storyline is well aligned between the two sources. In the book, he bore the shards of narsil that had been broken when sauron had been defeated at the end of the second age. Frodoharry, sam ron, sauronvoldemort are obvious, but of those only. The man has a golden set of pipes, and he can use them to convince pretty much anyone of just about anything. Just compare the duel of dumbledore vs voldemort to the duel of gandalf vs saruman. Im comparing book harry to book gandalf, at that time harry is anywhere from 11 to 17.
Nov 25, 2014 the decision to include saruman, radagast, and galadriel in the events of the hobbit is reasonable, in my opinion. The character has the same name in both the book and the movie. Saruman s power was destroyed before his plans could come to fruition, and he was killed when. Is it true that the book is always better than the movie. The similarities between harry potter and the lord of the. Bilbo puts on the ring and disappears, shocking those in attendance. Its pippins first smart decision in the movie and i thought it was pretty clever despite it not making too much sense. Jan 21, 2003 saruman says harry potter, give me your wand. I dont even think that dumbledore is a match for saruman.
Myersbriggs personality types of lord of the rings characters. Dec 28, 2007 harry potter and the prisoner of azkaban book and movie differences were adding in differences as we find them, but if you notice that weve left something out, please email us at corrections. Once i was done i immediately went on to rewatch peter jacksons epic adaptation of a book considered impossible to be turned into a movie. Peter jackson carried the burden with aplomb, breathing life into tolkiens rich world of middle earth while adding some of his own artistic flourishes. Please note that i am comparing the extended edition of the film to the book.
The return of the king the book and the lord of the rings. Specific changes between the peter jackson fellowship of the ring film compared to j. Then in early 1998, i heard about the first harry potter books. Lord of the rings vs harry potter offtopic comic vine. Harry felt a sharp pain in the back of his head before everything turned dark. An indepth analysis on the plot and character changes between the lord of the rings books and their movies for the character saruman. The bree innkeepers role is almost completely cut from the movie, while in the book he helps the hobbits more, and gave frodo a letter from gandalf. Saruman vs harry potter page 2 spacebattles forums. The most common complaint i see is that people still believe peter has unnecessarily expanded the story so he could make three movies. Saruman is the fallen white wizard and one of the istari, five maiar who came to arda in human form to help in the conflict against sauron.
While saruman is pretty good onscreen, we never see in the movie what that. Top 10 biggest differences between the lord of the. In a movie the character can speak their thoughts all day long in a either in their head, or in monlogue to themselves or to anybody else. In the book he is the eldest of the four, the movies portray him as the youngest. Whats the difference between the lord of the rings. Saruman is not truly defeated at isenguard in the two towers book, and returns at the end of return of the king book to take over the shire. But the whole saga is meant to evolve as the children grow up into adulthood hence the increase in. I have already stated my position on the padding controversy. No such battle is mentioned prior to saruman imprisoning gandalf.
Aug 11, 2019 the first book of hp is targetting 912 y. If you are fan of either series please take the survey, though i do warn you it is rather long. Top ten differences between the lord of the rings books and. Top 10 biggest differences between the lord of the rings movies. And while its wildly divergent from tolkiens themes for the series, saruman is a maiar aligned to the valar of the forge and of smithwork.
But thats a technical and marketing issue not a creative issue. Harry potter for me was the more exciting of the two but lord of the rings was just more than that. Similarities between harry potter and the lord of the. The restored scenes at sarumans tower bring their tale to a close. Because of the lord of the rings success over the 20th century and into the 21st century, we are diving into the world of hobbits, elves, dwarfs, and kings to examine the ageold question. Based on even the books gandalf and saruman have nothing over dumbledore and voldemort, they both have hyperbolic, implied power that is never displayed. The harry potter movies do a better job at playing true to the moral of the stories. In the movie at bree, strider is shown drawing a sword that is in one piece. First of all, this was by far my favourite book of the series. The other answers here are good but i will just add some clarifying remarks. Jan 21, 2003 originally posted by areoborg neither can i.
Rowling, jrr tolkien, the hobbit top quizzes today finish the literature title ii 954. A part from the fact a movie has shorter run time than a book. Harry simply doesnt have any power great enough to resist the voice of saruman. Dec 03, 2018 pippins encounter with the palantir of orthanc is an interesting scene, but the movie doesnt really do the original justice. Well my sauron vs voldemort was an instafail for being too much of a stomp, so lets try wizard vs wizard and see if its a more even match up saruman and voldemort battle each other to the death. Gandalf and saruman combined would wipe out everyone in the harry potter books. Which is better, the lord of the rings or harry potter. They collaborated with lotho and otho sackvillebaggins to take over the shire, and also hired human thugs to help. Dumbledore wins, spells in hp are shown more deadly than those shown in lotr. The story up to the council in rivendell about 23 of the book seem to drag on forever. Gandalf shoves saruman with his stick, saruman then makes gandalf spin wildly on his head and then levitates thousands of feet to the top of isengard tower. Why are saruman, radagast, and galadriel in the hobbit. Conversely, in the book, saruman was killed by wormtongue in bag end after the scorching of the shire.
In the extended cut of the return of the king, saruman s death happened at the tower of orthanc, at the hands of wormtongue. After struggling and losing his wand to ron, pettigrews silver hand, which was gifted to him by voldemort, betrays him and strangles pettigrew. But the whole saga is meant to evolve as the children grow up into adulthood hence the increase in page number, complexity and vocabulary as. Most of what shows up here is pretty much doable with the kind of resources saruman has in either the books or the films, assuming that he has a few years to prepare. The inclusion of the characters saruman, radagast, and galadriel in peter jacksons film adaptation of the hobbit continues to rankle wouldbe tolkien purists and critics. Once when the books were published the sunday times stated the following the englishspeaking world is divided into those who have read the lord of the rings and the hobbit and those who are going to read them this may have changed a bit, since a lot of people watched the movies first and decided they didnt need to read the books. Brandon layne, consistently ranked in top 10 harry potter answerers on quora. Frodoharry, samron, sauronvoldemort are obvious, but of those only. If, in the future, someone else makes another hobbit film they may take the story in a different direction. Saruman eventually killed both lotho and otho, imprisoning many hobbits, including lobelia sackvillebaggins. From the lord of the rings, the hobbit and harry potter to batman v superman. First of all i need to say that it is extremely hard to get into the book. Sir christopher frank carandini lee, cbe, cstj 27 may 1922 7 june 2015 was an english actor, singer and author.
This made the onlookers believe gandalf had made bilbo disappear. Top 10 shocking differences between the harry potter movies and. He eventually takes up residence in frodos own home at bag end, which had until then been. Reasons lord of the rings is better than harry potter. Heres what you miss in all those extended versions of movies. Rowling brought us the world of harry potter and endowed it with an. Even harry potter fans know that one can be bad without being evil, after all. Feb 24, 2015 the ents decide to go to war in the books, but in the movie pippin tricks the ents into going south to see the destruction saruman did to their lands to spur an attack. Wormtongue throws the palantir out of an orthanc window, where it hits the railing of the balcony that saruman was standing upon and rolls toward a pool before pippin rescues it. The answer is obviously lord of the rings consistency. Harry potter and the prisoner of azkaban book and movie differences were adding in differences as we find them, but if you notice that weve left something out, please email us at corrections. When i cant, all i can think is, yeah, this is just a fancylooking willow.
The similarities between harry potter and the lord of the rings. But evil beings like sauron and saruman are just a little bit better in our opinion. Alan rickman in harry potter and the deathly hallows. The fellowship of the ring, the main antagonist of the lord of the rings. We publish interactive book apps for iphone, ipad and android visit our app store. Tolkiens first installment of the lord of the rings. Saruman believes voldemort is a threat to middle earth while voldemort fears sarumans power and wishes to destroy him. Whenever i watch the lord of the rings movies, i need to forget that ive ever read the books. Im going to go with saruman because he seems far more powerful. The differences between the books and film really irk some people. There are so many reasons to create an extended version of a movie. In the book, saruman survives to nearly the end of the story. Based on a study by writer james chapman, the lord of the rings series is the 4th mostread book in the last fifty years, right behind the holy bible, quotations from chairman mao tsetung, and harry potter. Saruman the white is one of the two secondary antagonists alongside gollum of the 1954 fantasy novel the lord of the rings by the late j.
Harry potter quiz, lord of the rings quiz, missing word quiz, fantasy, fillintheblank, j. They should go down in movie history, given his love of the books, and his attitude towards pj and the series in general. A maiar and possessor of elven rings, gandalf is endowed with power over elements in addition to large scope of hand to hand combat and melee skills. Whether because they split the final book in half or its just one of the easiest to translate to the screen, harry potter and the deathly hallows part 1 is the movie most loyal to the book its.
Harry strode over to saruman and held a glowing palm in his face. I have put alot of lotr answers but i actually enjoyed reading the harry potter books more because they were fasterpaced and less descriptive of so much of the scenery. Saruman of many devices chapter 1, a lord of the rings. He is leader of the istari, wizards sent to middleearth in human form by the godlike valar to challenge sauron, the main antagonist of the novel, but eventually he desires saurons power for himself and tries to take over middleearth by force from his base at isengard. Each was on the level that the characters witnessing it would likely have thought to themselves, its a miracle. Sep 25, 20 all right, so i wanted to see how many of you like harry potter, how many the lord of the rings, and also which characters you prefer.
Free use these two printables after you have read the book and then seen the movie version. Theyre more powerful, more visually interesting, and have much larger histories. With a career spanning nearly seven decades, lee was well known for portraying villains and became best known for his role as count dracula. I went over the differences i noticed while reading the books, im sure i missed a ton, but the title of the movie links in bold take you to the wiki that lists all the differences. All harry potter movies ranked worst to best by tomatometer. Kmc forums movies movie discussion movie versus forum wizard battle. Saruman has a far superior command of kinetic spells, but he doesnt seem to have killing and torture spells something bellatrix seems quite well versed in using. Movie bellatrix discussiontheory a friend and i were discussing characterizations last night and i brought up how incredibly disappointed i was with the movie version of bellatrix when reading, id always pictured bellatrix much like a darker iteration of narcissa. It is precisely because harry chooses, freely and knowingly, to. And, sadly, i must conclude having just finished a thesis on the topic of human agency that harry potter himself goes about saving the world in a more consciously decisive manner than does frodo.
Harry waved his arm to saruman and a highly concentrated spear of wind drilled through the arm, tearing it off. Basing both on their book appearances rather than their movie counterparts, gandalf wins hands down. What character in the lord of the rings books was most accurately. The book is awesome and full of strange creatures, but its a supplementary book which is supposed to be one of harry s. The movie never shows the relevance of this moment, but in the book, when pettigrew goes to the chamber where harry and ron are being kept by the malfoys, the deed comes full circle. Harry potter hey redditors, i was having this huge conversation with a friend of mine and we got on the topic of characters battling each other and the best one we thought of was lord of the rings vs. In the movie when bilbo put on the ring during his party galdalf knew it was coming and created a blinding flash. Eventually, saruman allied himself with sauron, hoping to betray him once he had learned his weakness so he could establish himself as ruler of middle earth. Tolkiens the lord of the rings trilogy, theres bound to be casualties when moving from the page to screen. Even though the good guys have saruman cornered in orthanc by the end of book three of the two towers, he can still talk. Here i compare the two and explore the significance of what the.
Feb 15, 2019 just look at the harry potter fanbase to see how many kind of love those two villains. In the book, after being flooded out of isengard, both saruman and wormtongue went west to the shire. How would avada kevadra the most powerful spell in harry potter work on someone who cannot be killed. I dont see the difference between a book and movie in for point 3. When gandalf is summoned to orthanc, saruman shows gandalf that he. It doesnt have any characters from the other films but i may watch it just to add variety to the movies i watch this year.
R tolkien, and the secondary antagonist of peter jacksons live action film trilogy adaptation of the novels. The character of saruman was also not in the book, i didnt really understand the point of him being in the movie apart from at one point being difficult and rude about radagast and the next minute fighting like the dickens. He is the secondary antagonist of the lord of the rings. Areoborg kicks the phonebooth he has been tinkering with, which lights up. Yes, harry wins most of his missions but he readily admits that its mostly from luck. The lotr universe is consistent right from the start to the end. If there is no time to fully depict the scouring of the shire as tolkien wrote it in the third film, then this death provides his character with a fitting end. People need to start reading lotr instead of just watching the movies. Since the entire scouring of the shire chapter was excluded from the film, saruman s death needed to be moved to another location in the film to tie up loose ends.
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